tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post3932484365629147189..comments2024-03-27T16:39:57.485-04:00Comments on My OUTLANDER Purgatory: MOP Video: Season 3, Ep 305 - Freedom and WhiskyPurgatory Carolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04206226666250028550noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-35515655025161431152017-11-29T11:50:32.331-05:002017-11-29T11:50:32.331-05:00How does the presumed skeleton of Geillis show up ...How does the presumed skeleton of Geillis show up in Joe's office in 1968 when Geillis is alive in Inverness in 1968 (last season Claire, Roger and Bree saw Geillis going thru the stones and tried and stop her). Does being alive and dead at the same time break some time travel rule? <br />Perhaps I have the timeline wrong or my presumption that the skeleton is Geillis is incorrect. I hope someone can answer this - driving me nuts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-5626402026383188322017-11-12T18:28:46.539-05:002017-11-12T18:28:46.539-05:00Does any of the Sophie haters actually saw any of ...Does any of the Sophie haters actually saw any of her interviews? She read the books and based her performance on Sam's and feels protective of the character, so if there's a problem, it's not her, but the character. If you watched any of Sophie's roles, you would notice how different she is in other films. The character of Bree as portrayed by Sophie has lotsof layers, the same ones Sam gives to Jamie. Yet you criticize Sophie for the same thing you praise Sam for. That's quite hypocrite and a way to try to turn Sophie into Outlander's black sheep. I discovered the show because of her so it pains me that you people attack her, trying to say "everyone on the show are good but her". Yonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04062791777172370633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-6145274127567956752017-10-29T17:01:09.313-04:002017-10-29T17:01:09.313-04:00I have to say, for how much I love Roger Mackenzie...I have to say, for how much I love Roger Mackenzie, I don't like Bree. I'm not sure exactly why, but she's just not growing on me yet.... but Roger is just perfect. It will take a little longer for me to be able to root for their relationship. I'm actually glad that Claire is going through the stones so I get a break from Bree! (how horrible is that!?!?!)<br /><br />The last 5 minutes of this episode made it worth while. The making of the dress/coat with the batman music was a little corny, but I can let it slide. The transition from current to the past was beautiful. I really loved the use of the puddles and it was just a wonderful transition.<br /><br />Having Claire be above Jamie was a great idea. I loved the idea that she could look down on him, and that when he looked up at her she did have the light behind her (for that angelic look). And him passing out was perfect. Tracey - I love your take on the switch of the roles. I never thought about it that way, but now that you've described it, I can't believe I didn't see it before. I'm very excited for the next episode!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13642818441160353367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-45374376948826213232017-10-25T20:14:10.444-04:002017-10-25T20:14:10.444-04:00Yes it's weird but I saw it to. Actually the l...Yes it's weird but I saw it to. Actually the left boob when she's facing Jamie seemed to have a nipple looking bent downward. The right one didn't. It looked off. I also think it's strange to notice this. My husband said the same so maybe not. It didn't look natural. They did something which normally ends up looking off. Sorry but it's true. Cave Man wig, Faith beard disaster. Strange hair that grows/shrinks as the camera angle changes, disappearing years, or years that don't count. Again, love this show. Sassenachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801471796300239483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-64814564799982204022017-10-23T07:30:03.915-04:002017-10-23T07:30:03.915-04:00LOL Colleen...I'm still laughing at this comme...LOL Colleen...I'm still laughing at this comment! 😂Purgatory Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04206226666250028550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-3513837383012685902017-10-23T07:29:26.872-04:002017-10-23T07:29:26.872-04:00Janet, I am so sorry, it sounds like you had am am...Janet, I am so sorry, it sounds like you had am amazing relationship with your own Jamie that was cut too short. 💔Diana's books have such a way of bringing people together, and I'm so glad to hear you have people in your support circle who love Outlander as well. I have many favorite shows of escape, too; one of these days I have to start blogging about them a little more often! Poldark, Versailles, The Halcyon (that's a new one for me), to name a few. Thank you for saying, "Hello" and welcome to our (not so) little circle of Outlander fun! 💕Purgatory Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04206226666250028550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-90446253974343382472017-10-21T21:47:46.433-04:002017-10-21T21:47:46.433-04:00I know why they focused on Paul Revere because the...I know why they focused on Paul Revere because the professor says history is determined by who writes it, and it is subjective. Then she picks that theme up again when she is with Roger at Harvard and she says you can't trust history. Then she talks about the beauty of architecture and how exact that is. I think we are getting set up for her to decide to become and engineer and not be a historian. More like the books. I think there is a point, and it's not just filler. -ZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-53635469843087326182017-10-19T15:36:07.507-04:002017-10-19T15:36:07.507-04:00That is perfection! I also wished they would have...That is perfection! I also wished they would have shown the plastic wrap floating away. That would have been an amazing easter egg.colsgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00870552330589761872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-71109146943264097432017-10-18T21:29:18.352-04:002017-10-18T21:29:18.352-04:00So true! Your comment reminded me of when I was re...So true! Your comment reminded me of when I was reading the moment in the book and had to put an index card under the sentences so my eyes would not jump ahead and spoil any of the details!! What a roller coaster fun moment.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06527251235377048037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-3110624530607648392017-10-18T19:23:31.274-04:002017-10-18T19:23:31.274-04:00The moment when Claire is standing, looking throug...The moment when Claire is standing, looking through the Print Shop door, I was literally jumping up and down, yelling, "Go Through the door, GO THROUGH THE DOOR!!!!!" Got some pretty funny looks from my kids and husband, but I was not to be discouraged...as soon as I heard Jamie's voice, I was undone...it makes me tear up just thinking about it...all the heartache and lonesome torture DIA and the first 1/3 of Voyager put us through is so worth it just for the glory that is the Print Shop...I'm rereading Voyager now, because I need my Print Shop fix!! Allyburuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09749192460894467232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-80506906887230368362017-10-15T21:01:03.411-04:002017-10-15T21:01:03.411-04:00OH. MY. GOD. OUTLANDER ISN'T ON THIS WEEK. W...OH. MY. GOD. OUTLANDER ISN'T ON THIS WEEK. WHAT THE....???????????Colleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10555677225543413982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-59841515227734219552017-10-14T14:09:08.887-04:002017-10-14T14:09:08.887-04:00So....just found you ladies online. 23 year book...So....just found you ladies online. 23 year book fan. Lost my Jamie very suddenly and heartbreakingly in 2013. While reading the first book in 1993, pregnant with my first child, I turned to my husband and told him this woman had written a book about him. Corny, I know. <br /> Wasn't sure I could even watch the show, but after a few weeks back in '14, I did. Wedding episode originally aired on my late husbands birthday. Always thought that was cool.<br />So I am slow to the fan group game...as I navigate back to reality. Happened upon your channel on accident, actually a recommendation from one of my teen daughters. I have so enjoyed the videos I've watched so far. I've decided that at some point I will go back to season 1 and enjoy you in order. Might be a great way to endure the next Droughtlander. I would never leave a nasty or negative comment, as we all have our own opinions. My daughter's have put up with my "this was not in the book!" rants enough. We all have something we would like to see, and just have to appreciate the closest adaptation that we are given for the day.<br />Thank you for having a great place to land when you need to get away from the realities of life....much like the books and show (and all my other favorite shows of escape)<br />A fellow widow friend sent me a note about the Outlander wines. Thought of you gals, you should help yourself to a case.<br />With fond appreciation,<br />Janet CAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08264063455727218582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-39193560103659821132017-10-12T21:24:03.060-04:002017-10-12T21:24:03.060-04:00Yes, Kathie, now you've reminded me that the r...Yes, Kathie, now you've reminded me that the ring does come into play in a future book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-19194052767529367662017-10-12T18:44:02.808-04:002017-10-12T18:44:02.808-04:00Thanks for another great video. Every episode I h...Thanks for another great video. Every episode I have to go back and re-read some of the parts in Voyager. Part of me wants the show to be like the book, yet, I like most of the changes so far. Do you like where the episode ended with Jamie fainting? How funny! The lighting behind Claire, when she saw Jamie, was like heavenly light behind her. One of the first things I noticed was that Claire was wearing the ring from her marriage to Frank. Do you think that will play out some way in the future? Maybe she will use use it for some kind of payment in the 18th century? KathieAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13937020043093853920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-65770667445810110792017-10-12T17:52:27.071-04:002017-10-12T17:52:27.071-04:00This is a link to a great read regarding the show&...This is a link to a great read regarding the show's portrayal of Frank. Copy. Paste. Enjoy! ; ) https://justagirlwithspirit.wordpress.comdolittlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14918644216099319518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-57233510239202950012017-10-12T17:43:01.594-04:002017-10-12T17:43:01.594-04:00"I wish Claire had been kinder to Frank's..."I wish Claire had been kinder to Frank's girlfriend because, really, everything she said was true."<br /><br />Considering only what was shown in the show (a FAR cry from the Claire/Frank dynamic of the book), I wish FRANK had been truthful to his girlfriend and told her that Claire had suggested divorce YEARS ago, and that HE was the one who dismissed it. I wish he had told her that he was staying with Claire until he could take her daughter far away from her. Frank was having his cake and stringing everyone along. And let's not forget that, despite grieving for Jamie, Claire DID try to have a real marriage with Frank again, even going so far as to put herself out there with that sexy little strip tease-ish come on in the living room. It was Frank that stopped it - in the middle of the act! - because Claire wasn't looking adoringly at him. Way to be patient, Frank. Way to appreciate how hard Claire is trying, Frank. Then, because Claire's not a good liar, poor Claire gets no loving for twenty years. But we're supposed to feel sorry for Frank and his mistress? The mistress that shows up at Claire's home? REALLY? <br /><br />Candy/Sandy knew she was "the other woman," and had NO business approaching Claire. Frank was free to leave anytime, but he used Bree as an excuse. She should've been angry at Frank, because he obviously didn't love her enough to take a chance on leaving Claire. It's a common story, and the wife isn't at fault if the man won't leave. An intelligent woman like Candy/Sandy (along with Mandy/Fancy/Nancy/and Bambi if you're a book reader) should've been smart enough to know that.dolittlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14918644216099319518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-39155779443420400602017-10-12T16:45:32.745-04:002017-10-12T16:45:32.745-04:00"Like he combed his hair with an egg beater.&..."Like he combed his hair with an egg beater."<br />LOL! Good description! There's a wealth of amazing talent associated with this show, but the most distracting fails - apart from some of the more "creative" writing detours - has been hair. Remember Jamie's Bastille beard? Most of us did an open-mouthed head tilt over that. You'd think hair would be an easy fix. Guess not. dolittlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14918644216099319518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-62246516833102380922017-10-12T16:42:40.463-04:002017-10-12T16:42:40.463-04:00Hi Trish, I saw your comment via email; don't ...Hi Trish, I saw your comment via email; don't worry about it! :) As long as you give a spoiler warning, people will know to skip your comment and move on to the next one. <br /><br />Spoiler ahead:<br /><br />I HAD to address your question because I HAVE ALWAYS WONDERED THAT, TOO! I don't think they ever went there (much like I don't think Jamie ever really told Claire *why* he had sex with Geneva, did he??) and it drives me batty. Frank loved researching BJR and being his ancestor (not knowing what a freak he was) so I figured she might have told him. BUT - I guess it was pretty painful to even go there...so maybe she didn't. Either way, GREAT QUESTION!! :) Purgatory Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04206226666250028550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-31618921501348862962017-10-12T15:22:53.621-04:002017-10-12T15:22:53.621-04:00FYI,I deleted the comment because I was afraid it ...FYI,I deleted the comment because I was afraid it was "spoiler-ish"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15789285571790464250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-71741794498163474792017-10-12T15:20:25.873-04:002017-10-12T15:20:25.873-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15789285571790464250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-87493503188562801512017-10-12T10:45:50.713-04:002017-10-12T10:45:50.713-04:00SQUIRREL! :)<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg" rel="nofollow">SQUIRREL! :) </a>Purgatory Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04206226666250028550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-69936381014725608082017-10-12T09:12:06.617-04:002017-10-12T09:12:06.617-04:00Carol and Tracy, I was laughing without knowing wh...Carol and Tracy, I was laughing without knowing why! <br /><br />Dolittle, I love your reviews in the comments. "Heart bound" is a very good adjective describing how I feel about the books. The show is not the same for me. I too missed the closeness of Claire and Jamie and her touching him just before he faints. The tv show is not making me "heart bound" at all. I suspect the producer or who ever is just moving things along so they can be on the big sailing ships. I also miss Jamie's long hair. In the book she is always running her fingers thru it and she notices it's pulled back in a green ribbon when she first sees him. I don't get Jamie's messy hair in the tv show. At Hellwater all the other groomsmen managed to comb their hair into neat pony tails and "McKenzie" always looked like he combed his hair with an egg beater. Both Clair and Jamie have a lot said in the books about their hair and I miss that.sigh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-43893939590030961752017-10-12T01:54:35.197-04:002017-10-12T01:54:35.197-04:001. Why is Claire still wearing Frank's wedding...1. Why is Claire still wearing Frank's wedding ring?<br />2. Where did Claire leave her luggage of contemporary clothes, when it was unlikely that she would ever come back for them?<br />3. Did she really have time to make the 18th c. underpinnings?<br />4. Why would she put a zipper in the corset when she knew it was historically wrong?<br />5. Just watched the 5th episode for the second time and decided Bree does look like Jamie.<br />6. Even the dialogue on the Dark Shadows clip was well-chosen to reflect Claire's situation.<br />7. It's interesting how we take to certain actors and not to others. Roger (wish he'd shave) and Joe I find instantly likeable but not Bree. Didn't like her in the books but am slowly warming up to her in the show. Her wig is awful. Hair was long then; I was 18. But hers is just too much.<br />8. Guess Claire didn't have to wait for the solstice or other significant date to go through the stones.<br />9. Love Claire's hair. She sure is gorgeous. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-19523929104457780842017-10-11T13:47:00.286-04:002017-10-11T13:47:00.286-04:00I read all these books so long ago. It's very ...I read all these books so long ago. It's very hard to keep it all separated into individual books. If I say something that might be a spoiler, I apologize in advance. <br /><br />I've watched this episode 3 times loved it from a 60's point of view. I love their outfits, the hair, all the Christmas decorations, the tree, how the house is a mixture of 60's vibe and older. The outside shot of the hospital looked just like the now torn down hospital in the town I grew up in. Being born in 1967, I missed all the fun fashion of this era. MCM is def my spirit animal. <br /><br />I did feel Joe got the raw end of the scripting and it showed Claire's semi narcissistic behavior by not ever having a conversation with Joe that was centered on him. The only time she seems interested in him is when he is looking at Geillis's bones but then it's really about her. LOL I also thought in the book, the thing about the bones was that one of the teeth had a silver filling or a silver tooth. Therefore, when Claire saw it, she immediately knew it had to be someone who had traveled through the stones. <br /><br />Even in the books, Bree was never my favorite character. She is self-centered, shallow and well a teenager or a young adult who lived her life in the bubble of the upper middle-class lifestyle of her time. It takes her awhile to come into her own and find out what she is made of and capable of. I agree with the others, I don't find her casting to be of my taste but then I suppose it might be hard to find such a person in real life to match the book Bree in looks and size. I love Roger. His clothes, his accent, that fact he is a history buff. I love history so we are kindred spirits. His personality is just lovely. <br /><br />The Candy/Sandy scene I was expecting Claire's claws to come out a little. It's not so much like her to keep her mouth shut. What Candy/Sandy said was true and Claire took the high road. None of it matters anymore anyway. Frank died and with it so did their passive aggressive marriage arrangement. I don't like how they played out their marriage in the show and I thought Frank died of a heart attack instead of a car accident. Also, when Claire see's Frank after he has died, she smells his neck... Bree smells his pipe. Smell is one of the great ways we remember things and trigger memories. It's also unlikely Frank would have been faithful to Candy/Sandy either. <br /><br />The time line for the show seems very scattered to me. In episode 2 with Fergus, hadn't six years gone by making Fergus like 16 or 17 instead of still a young boy looking like he was twelve or however old he was in France? <br /><br />The bat suit was cool. I agree that multiple rain coats would be needed to create it. I suppose if you had everything you needed, one could possibly create an outfit such as that in a very long day. I can't recall how much time there was between when Claire decided to go back and when she actually left. I thought it showed once she made up her mind, she was all in and was going to do whatever it took to stay focused on her end result. <br /><br />The stepping in the puddle was very well played out and was glad they didn't drag out that part. The print shop was perfect as was the acting. I suppose printing equipment of that era was very heavy, large and cumbersome to move around and therefore, would need to be on the main floor. I thought my husband was going to faint waiting for this moment. I am glad they did not fade to black when Claire opened the door and took the scene further. Otherwise, my husband was going to start sending hate mail and nasty grams. :) The look on Jamie's face was priceless. One can only imagine the thoughts filtering across his mind in those few seconds. Shock, surprise, joy, oh shit and on the floor he went. Not quite how Claire thought it was going to go. <br /><br />Can't wait for the next sex-pisode. Not sure I am old enough to watch it play out in real time.Kellyhttp://www.themystikmind.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-20465234543975135492017-10-11T10:32:48.476-04:002017-10-11T10:32:48.476-04:00
Now what about Jamie?? Oh yeh, his adulterous way...<br />Now what about Jamie?? Oh yeh, his adulterous ways either come off as sweet and endearing (aka. Mary MacNabb), or he’s a saint/hero for teaching a poor victimized young girl the ways of the flesh. Jamie is committing an egregious crime when he agrees to deflower Geneva, 3 days before her wedding to another man no less. In 18th century Scotland, this is a crime punishable by a prison term. Jamie was more at risk of getting caught and going to jail by fornicating with an unmarried woman, than he was of being found out by Lady Dunsany- which turns out to be an empty threat. Do people hold Jamie accountable for his dishonorable behavior?? Hell no!! It was corrosion, he was so sweet to show this poor girl a good time!! And what a passionate, sexy, intimate good time it was too!! Jamie had no problem being with Geneva, a matter of fact, production decided to shoot that scene in such a sexy way, that viewers were actually praising it as the best Outlander sex yet. Really?? Is that what they want??? “The best sex” is with the male lead and the “other woman”, and under corrosion and basically a rape?? Wow! Message to women- even though you should stay true to your love and shelve your sexual desires, a man is given the freedom to move on and have hot sensual sex with other woman with out a signal thought of you, or any legal or moral consequences. Jamie can do no wrong! But Claire?? Oh yeah, she’s a cold heartless bitch to poor Frank and his mistress, because she honor’s Jamie love by being a “monk” for 20 years... because, you know, woman just don’t need it like men.<br /><br />I really hate that they changed the dynamics of Frank and Claire’s marriage. I truly think it would have been better if they continued to have sex throughout their marriage (like in the book!), and just had Frank committing outright adultery. But Hollywood doesn’t want to send that massage, aka. “Men committing adultery is wrong.” They want to validate it some way, but in doing so they are oppressing women by sending the message that it’s ok for your spouse to fornicate with other woman, and if you don’t like it, you are a cold hearted b*tch. If you think I’m wrong, I would erg you to look at what’s going on in Hollywood right now. Henry Wienstine has gotten away with sexual assault for YEARS and everyone knew it!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12308730533572178976noreply@blogger.com