tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post7433098919827767465..comments2024-03-27T16:39:57.485-04:00Comments on My OUTLANDER Purgatory: My Outlander Purgatory Breaks Down Starz' Outlander Episode 8: Both Sides NowPurgatory Carolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04206226666250028550noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-54742401755008928572014-10-10T14:09:50.161-04:002014-10-10T14:09:50.161-04:00Ok, dunno if anyone has mentioned this yet, but th...Ok, dunno if anyone has mentioned this yet, but the shawl came back! It was still there at the stones! All dirty and wet and wrapped around the center stone. I have a feeling that it may come back again sometime . . .Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06698032380873110197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-60450726460151836792014-10-03T16:33:04.872-04:002014-10-03T16:33:04.872-04:00Hi guys.
Just getting around to watching the wra...Hi guys.<br /> Just getting around to watching the wrap ups. As always - you guys have so much fun - we have it with you.<br /> I have to say that, the first time I watched this, I was disgusted with Frank. It felt like all he cared about was that Claire wasn't with another man. Even the scene at the stones didn't move me. I thank that's partly because I just finished reading Dragonfly. Maybe.<br /> But then I watched it again. And I was transformed! He is in such anguish. And when he's weeping at the stones, my heart broke for him. <br /> I too will welcome kick-ass Jamie and I think this is the natural turning point for that. <br /> I haven't really cried in the series but I remember crying so hard in the book that I couldn't see the pages. It was when Claire was walking back and forth on Craig na Dun - that's all I'll say - you know what I'm talking about. WOW.<br /> Ok, gotta run, do some writing of my own. Back to 1775 for me. Y'all rock and I look forward to watching more. Jax Hunterhttp://revive1775.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-29214060217254349562014-10-02T21:41:36.982-04:002014-10-02T21:41:36.982-04:00After watching this again, I want to agree with Ca...After watching this again, I want to agree with Carol concerning the final scene. I too thought it occurred during the day. Jamie had to sneak around and then they cut the flag and went over the stockade. Being an American, I think of stockades as tall plank fences all around log buildings. Its always a surprise to see these huge stone buildings and fortifications.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-3749438442332001902014-10-02T20:17:19.379-04:002014-10-02T20:17:19.379-04:00OMG!! I thought I was the only one who heard Marty...OMG!! I thought I was the only one who heard Marty McFly in that scene! SCARY! Tracy I have liked both of your possible cliff hanger endings for season 1. I was wondering if they would skip the whole opening of book 2 and just go straight into Paris, but in terms of a show, a cliff hanger of some sort seems a better option. <br /><br />I love the show, and am so torn by all the Fank vs Jamie discussion! I think a lot us feel the "underdevelopment" of Jamie, but in other aspects they have been so true to the books that I have to keep faith that missing conversations and such will still be forthcoming, just not where we expected them. As we've heard Jamie will get voice overs in the second half of the season, I think there is going to be a shift from Frank to Jamie in focus of the show (kind of like Claire's emotions). I think Frank will no longer be seen in his own time, but rather in flashbacks in Claire's memory, and our beloved JAMMF will be taking center stage all around.Stephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15951855890346176623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-51347650680476338222014-10-02T12:09:15.297-04:002014-10-02T12:09:15.297-04:00Okay I just want to comment on the "Sally&quo...Okay I just want to comment on the "Sally" scene...I felt that Frank's DNA was totally channeling his ancestor BJR and that he was able to rise above BJ's sinister character hence the conversation later with the Pastor...listen to that one again!<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-80200678438817099082014-10-02T11:51:44.771-04:002014-10-02T11:51:44.771-04:00Starz "dinna need to be skairt..." that,...Starz "dinna need to be skairt..." that, during the looong wait for April, we fans will forget our Jamie and Claire (and the lads. OK, Dougal too - how about bringing in Sean Connery as his current time double, maybe to give Frank a talking to!) . We'll just be knitting about a dozen 'Claire Cowl' scarfs and other knit-bits in the meantime. We all want you to keep using the love and care in bringing our dream world to life, and that takes time, ye ken.<br /><br />Scanbrit Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-78361190990632027142014-10-01T16:30:56.555-04:002014-10-01T16:30:56.555-04:00And btw Carol I'm over by Valley Forge!
Nikki...And btw Carol I'm over by Valley Forge!<br /><br />Nikki Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-29975426757458654812014-10-01T15:12:26.242-04:002014-10-01T15:12:26.242-04:00Have not commented before but after reading what G...Have not commented before but after reading what Gail wrote I had to! Read the first book the year it came out and have been in love with the series ever since! I love the video recaps and am so excited to be watching these books I have loved for so long .. But Gail I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said! <br /><br />NikkiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-29309378041963214052014-10-01T12:36:50.843-04:002014-10-01T12:36:50.843-04:00Gail - I am SO with you! (though I suppose we sho...Gail - I am SO with you! (though I suppose we should wait for the full series until we go all "poutlander" ) Can't hurt to express our opinions.<br /><br />Also, we should all put the Starz series on our Amazon/Netflix wish lists in hopes of getting them to PLEASE get cracking on series 3 to infinity and CD's etc for purchase: makes a great Samhain gift!!<br /><br />ScanbritAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-47929800872918924712014-10-01T12:17:26.359-04:002014-10-01T12:17:26.359-04:00Did anyone else notice the hand-written notes on t...Did anyone else notice the hand-written notes on the "wanted" flyer of ghost Jamie? I paused it and it said, Jacobite Brooch, Possibly Eighteenth Century with a pretty accurate drawing of the brooch that Jamie hands to Murtagh in Ep. 7 Geez Frank, I know you worked intelligence in the war, but DAMN...didn't think you got that good of a look! The poster also lists very specific details about the highlander, like his height, eye color, and that he was unshaven! Remind me never to show up to the morning school drop-off car line at the same time as Frank, even ten cars away...."yes, I believe she was wearing yoga pants with a small hole in the left a@# cheek, flip flops, and possibly, no bra..." Yikes!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-47078868026265835912014-10-01T11:54:50.587-04:002014-10-01T11:54:50.587-04:00First time commenting here although I've been ...First time commenting here although I've been enjoying your video recaps for each of the first 8 episodes, ladies! By way of introduction, let me say I am a book reader (have read all 8 and am now working my way back through all of them), but I am not one of those book readers who refuse to accept any deviation from the storyline Diana wrote. Moving outside the box can be good at times and lords knows the Starz series is brilliantly capable of pushing the boundaries without losing the essence of the book. However, I hated the mid season finale...absolutely hated it! Spending so much time on what poor Frank was going through back in 1945 eroded yet again the time they need to spend (and haven't done adequately yet) on showing the audience the strength and depth of Jamie and Claire's connection - even now in the early days of it. I resent that, much as I find myself resenting the amount of screen time they are allotting to Frank and BJR. Did Tobias Menzies have a clause in his contract that called for x amount of screen time??? Almost feels that way to me. Yes, he is an amazing actor, but the way the showrunners have chosen to focus so much time on his two characters while giving Sam short shrift in showing us who Jamie Fraser is as a man undermines the absolute bedrock foundation of the Outlander story. Claire and Frank were never some epic love story - seriously, after so many years of separation during the War they go on a "second honeymoon" which consists of sex and Frank spending countless hours with Rev. Wakefield discussing genealogy??? I'm digressing here I fear and not making my point well enough...without showing the audience more of who Jamie and Claire are together I feel they are changing the soul, as it were, of the story. True, we get brief (very brief) glimpses of it here and there, but not in the way they need to establish that connection to make it believable. Instead, we get yet another Emmy reel for Tobias and this idiotic deviation that somehow Claire and Frank Randall were a love story for the ages. No...just no. Guess while I'm on a tear here I'll also admit that while artfully shot and visually stunning, the running to the stones and calling out for each other was in my opinion hokey melodrama. There are important scenes between Jamie and Claire that are being ignored and I'm not saying this a "pouty" book reader...it's the truth! If they continue to deviate and push the storyline further and further out, perhaps they should also change the opening credits from "based on the books by Diana Gabaldon" to "VERY loosely based on a concept by Diana Gabaldon". Sorry my first post here makes me sound like such a grumpus, but when they start messing with the story to this degree (and god knows how much further out they intend to push it), it upsets me. On a brighter note, I LOVED seeing our first glimpse of wee Roger - what a cutie!<br /><br />GailAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-44636999323044920242014-09-30T21:43:30.998-04:002014-09-30T21:43:30.998-04:00The Frank point of view was interesting. But how w...The Frank point of view was interesting. But how will non-readers come to the conclusion that Jamie is the King of Men? So far his most gallant act is to marry Claire. And the J+C relationship has been flirtation. I don't know that non-readers are going to get the magnitude of events in the second part of season 1 if they don't get that Jamie is the better man for Claire - and his adversarial relationship with Black Jack I don't think either of these topics have been developed to the level needed to make the same point as was done in the book. This feels like a very different story - especially episode 108.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-2009035262550424782014-09-30T02:29:50.411-04:002014-09-30T02:29:50.411-04:00I don't blame him for any of the rapes, they a...I don't blame him for any of the rapes, they are just part and parcel of living in Jamie's time. And I am team Jamie all the way. I am just saying between Frank and BJR Jamie's character is getting too little screen time. Maybe this will change in the second half of the season and we will see more of the red-hair warrior (to quote Anonymous September 29, 2014 at 4:35 PM, this is such a lovely phrase!). I will surely watch because I am seriously hooked.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-48045546759069692862014-09-29T20:38:11.230-04:002014-09-29T20:38:11.230-04:00Don't miss the way hilarious blog by atomicfle...Don't miss the way hilarious blog by atomicflea: <br />http://www.tv.com/shows/outlander/community/<br /><br />tons of eye candy pics to tide you over until April. Freakin' genius!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-6735181942237938942014-09-29T19:18:57.609-04:002014-09-29T19:18:57.609-04:00I actually went back and looked in my book, and wh...I actually went back and looked in my book, and when Claire goes through the stones it's Beltane, which is between Spring and Summer. No wonder I remembered them lying around naked in the heather. Sigh...<br /><br />And something completely else that I read on Facebook today...The 2nd part of season 2 will have Jamie voiceovers!!! I am SO friggin' excited about that, I cannot even tell you! According to Diana we're gonna hear a lot more from him, and they'll flesh out his character more, which is something they need, imo. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-17395021326239323772014-09-29T18:26:04.058-04:002014-09-29T18:26:04.058-04:00ValGal, I totally agree with you!! I hope they s...ValGal, I totally agree with you!! I hope they show more of Jamie's many great qualities in future episodes (and less of Frank). <br /><br />-Lisa in GAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-37518005555753177412014-09-29T16:35:23.387-04:002014-09-29T16:35:23.387-04:00Was able to sneak in another watch. I think what ...Was able to sneak in another watch. I think what moved me the most, what was not in the book. The Stones scenes where Claire and Frank were calling to each other and their voices were passing each other, but could not be heard. I definitely felt such sadness for both of them. And I'm not that much of a Frank/BJR fan. I think he acts really well, he just does not resonate with me at all - but he did in this scene.<br />I hope he left the suitcase behind in case she comes back....<br />I also felt that Jamie was the warrior, but he showed his humanness that he believed what he had - clan, family, himself to protect her, yet they met a situation where he couldn't.<br />I agree over the series - has made Jamie seen as the nephew who is unimportant that they can foist any duty on him and he takes it. There has been so much footage of flashbacks and Frank that he has not been able to establish his character as the red headed warrior as he is positioned in the book. Hopefully season 1B will allow him to flourish as a character. But, I have read enough that Frank will still be in the picture, along with, as we know, a fair amount of BJR.<br />I know the content portion of the woman luring Frank for the reward was to show the BJR dark side and anger, but I just felt it was too, too obvious. They might have selected another portion of the script to show that side.<br />It was a well done episode, but I strangely still like "Gathering" the best. I thought the character definition was strong for everyone (except Frank) and the scenes with Geordie, and Dougal thanking Claire were particularly well done.<br />I have to say though, with this episode, the scoring was outstanding. Bear did a wonderful job.<br />Just as an aside since I read only a few of the books a long, long time ago, is it a spoiler to tell how Jamie's mother died?<br />jefsantamonicaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-49600998951559605912014-09-29T15:02:01.749-04:002014-09-29T15:02:01.749-04:00Great job gals. Carol, want to see a panoramic p...Great job gals. Carol, want to see a panoramic picture of your kitchen. Looks great.! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-13021925598912484552014-09-29T12:41:15.552-04:002014-09-29T12:41:15.552-04:00Tracy and Carol: Yes PLEASE give us some interim r...Tracy and Carol: Yes PLEASE give us some interim recaps to tide us over until April (groan!) In the meantime, I'm going back to Diana's post about how to write sex(y) scenes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-60794983585652396152014-09-29T10:46:50.876-04:002014-09-29T10:46:50.876-04:00Oh, come on. You really can't blame
Jamie for...Oh, come on. You really can't blame<br />Jamie for all the attempted rapes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-90452805466876022482014-09-29T09:26:18.502-04:002014-09-29T09:26:18.502-04:00I agree about series not taking time to build up t...I agree about series not taking time to build up the character of Jamie. Jamie has really had limited time on screen. Claire is of course in every scene since it's her point of view. CB has certainly earned whatever they are paying her. Sam Heughan is sometimes hardly in the show. I don't think we needed that much of a Frank story on the final episode. I would have rather have seen the relationship between Claire and Jamie deepen. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-29728982827495971192014-09-29T08:52:09.013-04:002014-09-29T08:52:09.013-04:00I'm starting to feel a bit impatient with the ...I'm starting to feel a bit impatient with the slooooow character arc for Jamie. They've been sacrificing time for all of the scenes/lines that show WHO JAMIE IS for all of this time they are spending on Frank - who is really a non-entity at this point. At this point, Jamie is being depicted as a young, naïve virgin beefsteak - when he is SO much more! I feel like they are hitting me over the head with Frank repeatedly and I'm starting to get a headache from it.<br /><br />ValGalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-60169897910092457952014-09-29T08:45:06.348-04:002014-09-29T08:45:06.348-04:00That final scene with Black Jack and Claire was fi...That final scene with Black Jack and Claire was filmed out of sequence by a different director from the rest of the episode because of the location.<br /><br />ValGalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-49118464106731662292014-09-29T08:36:26.494-04:002014-09-29T08:36:26.494-04:00You've got my vote!
ValGalYou've got my vote!<br /><br />ValGalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2193939705192575193.post-90004596730388751942014-09-29T07:05:46.254-04:002014-09-29T07:05:46.254-04:00Whoops. replied in the wrong place. My comment abo...Whoops. replied in the wrong place. My comment above was meant to reply to KClark Photography query about when Claire first saw Roger. LynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com