Sunday, February 16, 2020

MOP VIDEO: “The Fiery Cross” Season 5 Episode 501 RECAP





SEASON PREMIERE RECAP! 

My Outlander Purgatory's Carol and Tracey are back to recap the PREMIERE episode of Season 5 of Outlander, the Starz series based on Diana Gabaldon's best selling book series. Join us as we break down every moment, including how conveying tragic news makes Murtaugh hot AF; what this episode had in common with the Waltons; trying to figure out what to do with Roger; the longest walk down the aisle in cinematic history; the Frasers’ tremendous wedding response rate; Marsali giving us all the Minnie Driver in Good Will Hunting feels; the JAMMF/Claire/Bree/Rog/Jocasta/Murtaugh three-way; realizing that Roger’s actually good at something (telling Jocasta off); the pros and cons of Lord John as comic relief; the return of KILTED JAMIE; where Murtaugh’s hiding spot should be; and much, much more!!

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56 comments:

  1. I believe the purpose of the shaving scene is to show how unprepared Roger is to live in the 1770's. So he lists what he doesn't know how to do. I believe to really enjoy the show one must suspend time. Think only of the order things are happening. Otherwise the question is "What the hell has Roger been doing for five months? Taking a vacation!" In about 150 days he still can't ride a horse or milk a cow etc. Oh and by the way Jamie should thank his lucky stars for Roger. Roger was the one who persisted and found out Jamie was alive thus enabling Claire and Jamie to live "happily" ever after.

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  2. Marsali was holding baby Jem. Bree and Roger looked at the baby when he cried.

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    1. I looked again. Jem is in the basket in front of Marsali.

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    2. No, sorry, Lizzie was holding Jem.

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    3. Not during the wedding. They showed her in the audience not holding the baby.

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    4. I recorded the episode. I studied the audience. First spotting of baby Jem was in Lizzie's arms sitting next to Jocasta. Second time they looked at Lizzie the baby was not in her arms. However she did bend towards the ground. Must mean basket with Jem was on the ground near Lizzie. Basket in front of Marsali was not the same as basket Jem was lifted out of by Bree or sleeping in the cabin.

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  3. Elements of Book 6 ARE being pulled into Season 6.

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  4. There's a covered breeze way between the house and the surgery. So the house is separate from the surgery.

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  5. Murtaugh isn't going to Jocasta. She has permission to marry Duncan. Let's have a threesome. He is going to lead the regulators. He's a man of convictions.

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  6. They show murtagh in Wilmington in the previews

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  7. That was Josiah Beardsley at the surgery they find kasiah later.

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    1. Correct, Janie called him Josiah the hunter.

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  8. Bobby doesn't show up until the next book

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  9. I just finished reading fire across again for the third time to prepare myself for this season

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  10. When Jamie says the Fraisers of the ridge are here you can see the cross behind Jamie.

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    1. You can also see the cross in the scene with Jamie, the Govenor and Lt. Knotts.

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  11. Hello there Carol and Tracy. So happy you're back. I did subscribe to your YouTube videos but would rather comment here on the blog. Keeping MOP Tom "in the room" is such a wonderful part of your video. Thank you for sharing the story about how Tom made such an entrance in his suit! Liked Episode 1 of Season 5 also, btw. But having you guys back to 'hang out' with is the very best part of Outlander for me. See you next week.

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  12. I was kind of let down with this episode.I realize that it was being set up for what is to come but to me it was missing a lot of the elements that makes Outlander so amazing and intense..

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  13. One more thing I hated the entrance music..I just kept thinking give us back our Celtic sound Please..

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  14. Glad you’re back ladies!
    Also glad the the show is back. But, got the feeling it had been disneyfied or gone full little house on the prairie. hope they don’t waste any more episodes dropping the plots so they can continually scan the scene for more costuming award footage...On the upside, Sam finally has a better wig and lighting!
    -Also, that was a small piece of historically accurate/ and contemporary Presbyterian wedding liturgy, and walking the aisle has been around for centuries before 1770.

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    1. But, what about that stage and crochet wedding backdrop/huppa? Decidedly not Presbyterian or Catholic.

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  15. Where did Jamie get his kilt & full dress regalia when they washed up on the beach with only the clothes on their backs? Suspending disbelief now. :) Amazon? Maybe Jenny mailed it over?

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    1. Jaime and Claire were separated from the ship. The people who found them said the ship wreck was down the coast. Trunks and stuff would have washed ashore or been brought from the wreck. (possibly)

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    2. He did get clothes made when he was working with Aunty Jo being her man of business and having to entertain on a regular basis

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  16. And to add.... Murtaugh is a stone sliver FOX!

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  17. Loved spending time with you guys as you broke down this really good start to the season. Was hoping you'd say something about Jamie's cry of "the Frasers are here!" but otherwise enjoyed all your great comments and insights, especially since I havent read the books. Thanks, Ladies! Will see you next week!

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  18. Enjoyed your comments on the first episode, but I noticed one omission. You did not mention The March 2 USA roll out of Sam Heughan's new blended Scotch Whisky "The Sassenach". It will be my new go to beverage during "Outlander" viewings.

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  19. Hi everyone! So glad you are back and I also think it is wonderful that you make Tom a part of it! Now about the cross, I watched an interview with the cast and they were talking about it. It was actually an uncle of Sams that made the crosses for the show and they did put something on and in it to make it burn for a long time. They purposely did not make a Ku Klux Klan type of cross, so that nobody will be offended which I am glad about. All in all a great start for season five and Sam finally with a decent wig and no bangs!! Annette from Greece

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    1. Thanks for the info on the creation of the crosses used in the show. And also - the reminder of Sam's Whiskey! I'll be prepared with a wee dram for the next episode.

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  20. Hello. Love watching you! The guy you're thinking of with the brand on his face works for LJG. Hope I didn't spoil anything.

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  21. anybody found a pic of kilted jamie?

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  22. Welcome back, y'all! Yay, DROUGHTLANDER IS OVER! Just watched your commentary on 501: excellent and entertaining, as always. I'm not (yet) a book reader, but am completely obsessed with the show, therefore, a question: Since the entire cast was present for Roger & Bree's wedding, I was wondering when and where in the books did Bree first meet Fergus & Marsali? I don't think they covered that in any prior episode. Thanks!

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  23. Thank God the wait's over and fab to see you back in action girls. Agree with Tracey that LJG's response after being thrown the leather bottle suggesting a Shakespeare quote was totally not LJG. He fits in everywhere and always knows what to say (bit like the hump in the cupboard at Jocasta's - just wrong!).

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  24. Regarding the guest list and the whole lavish and formal vibe going on I think in interviews several mentions have been made to fans wanting to see more of the family coming together intimate stuff and I think this is the result. Far from the book but I really liked it on the whole. LJG being there was I think a device to get mention of Stephen Bonnett into the show as well as reintroducing all the existing characters before they start bringing in new ones.

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  25. Re the cake thing - yep it is not a UK thing and I hope most US brides and grooms offer slightly smaller portions to their loved one's that looked like a massive gob full!

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  26. On the matter of Murcasta, Murtagh said he was a man and could not change telling Jocasta that he couldn't give up on the Regulator thing and his response about Duncan Innes told her that he realised her position as a prominent Loyalist would be in danger if it got out about their relationship. I think Jamie would also be pissed off with him as well, putting his aunt in danger. Most of his regulator associates are in the local NC area so it's likely he will stay around and I have a feeling his character won't last into S6. PS Young Murtagh was hot and I think they did it with just good make up smoothing his skin and maybe just a bit of CGI!

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    1. But isn't is wildly delicious that we can come up with endless endings for Murcasta? My fave is that they both go off to Canada and live a long happy life together.

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  27. Last comment for this week - thought all the actors (except maybe LJG but maybe not David Berry's fault given his lines) knocked it out the park. Sam was absolutely brilliant, he really is Jamie. Lauren Lyle was soooo fun and even Lizzie is growing on me.

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  28. Nice to see you again! Thanks for your time and perspectives! I wanted to comment on Murtagh and where he might go. I don't think that Murtagh is going to go hide anywhere.I don't think it is in his nature to run and hide. I think that he believes that he's living on borrowed time after Culloden and is not going to give up. I think that he is going to fight with the Regulators and at some point, Jamie will come face to face with him and have to make the decision to shoot him. I don't think that Jamie will, but someone else will shoot and kill Murtagh. From my crystal ball. LOL. And then, the story will be back on track with the books. Another comment- Murdina Bugg was there somewhere but who was she? She was credited.

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  29. Watched it a second time to see the characters that were credited as suggested. I don’t watch them at the beginning, either, so as a book reader there’s some surprise. Anyway, I thought Arch and Murdina were shown a couple times, once in an introduction/greeting to the family and then once in their own shot. Duncan Innes was there I think as a man with a sleeve pinned over. -I agree with the comment that Murtaugh is more likely to stand and deliver in a fight than hide out in Ny. Plus, Tryon historically, leaves to go to Ny before long! Looking forward to more commentary, Ladies. Thanks for this conversation!

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    1. Hi Anonymous- I'm not sure why we are both anonymous- I seem to be signed in... oh well. I was wondering about Tryon and when he moves to become Gov. of New York. Thanks for letting me know about Duncan Innes and the sleeve... I'll go back and watch for him. Cheers! Oh--- looks like I was finally able to get my name in there. Cheers.

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  30. Okay. I could not stop to read all the comments above, but, isnt the baby Roger and Bree's.....the one Marsali and Fergus held at the wedding????

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    1. I recorded the episode. I studied the audience. First spotting of baby Jem was in Lizzie's arms sitting next to Jocasta. Second time they looked at Lizzie the baby was not in her arms. However she did bend towards the ground. Must mean basket with Jem was on the ground near Lizzie. Basket in front of Marsali was not the same as basket Jem was lifted out of by Bree or sleeping in in the cabin.

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  31. I am just watching the breakdown on YT so forgive me for not being caught up much sooner. I want to say.........I AM SO FREAKING HAPPY TO BE BACK!!! Cant wait to dig in and analyse every little nuance of FC!

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  32. Am I the only one who noticed that there is never a Fergus and Marsali love scene???? I mean... like.... LOVE scene??

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  33. Hello Ladies, I discovered your videos last year and enjoyed everyone leading up to 501, I am now caught up. Love all your comments and insights!
    I thought this was a great episode, but had a couple of comments...
    I love Lord John Grey but I thought he seemed a little out of place, a little forced having him at the wedding. Was he at the wedding in the book? and why wouldn't he have brought Willie with him?
    I can't remember did you comment on Aunt Jacosta's sleeping arrangements? Was she sleeping in a tent or was she sleeping in the big house?
    I agree with you regarding Claire seeing patients in the house. You think Jamie would build her a separate little house for her to see the patients.
    Thanks again! Look forward to watching next week!

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  34. So glad Droughtlander is over and you ladies are back. Agreed that the wedding should have been at the Gathering, not as a celebration just for Jamie and Claire's family and tenants, with a few select guests. If I recall, Fiery Cross opened with Claire waking at the campsite "hearing" Frank and telling him to go away. Yes, the wedding was SO long and the other plot twist in the book was the Catholic priest that was to marry Brianna and Roger, but he was arrested. The priest was courtesy of Jocasta. That is why they were married by a pastor instead (in the book) because the priest was forced to leave. The priest did manage to christen the children while Jamie gave his "confession" in lurid detail. That was missing in this episode also.
    I did, for the most part, like the episode. Roger's conversation with Jocasta was priceless and I had to give my 35 year old younger son the Reader's Digest for the last two seasons so he could understand what was going on. I had started my husband on Outlander Season 1 while he was in the hospital 2 years ago. He did enjoy it. He passed away in March 2019, so I understand the nod to Tom by Carol. (Tears here.)
    I agree that Lord John in the book would not be at the wedding, but I do understand why they included him in this episode. I did feel sorry for him, alone as the drunks fell off to sleep around him.
    I thought Germaine's comment about "ticks" - heretics - was very funny. Nice!!
    I saw an earlier comment about Murtagh possibly not lasting into Season 6, and it may be true. I am not sure how they will include his character (and do it justice) after Jocasta marries Duncan. I was happy they kept the character alive and I LOVE Murtagh, he is awesome and hot!
    I live out in the country and my internet connection is slow at best. It was hard watching the episode as my connection kept reloading the episode. When Carol had some glitches, I was thinking she might have the same issue.
    Once again, so very happy to see you ladies!!

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  35. Interesting that while Jamie so fastidiously shaved Roger, he didn't shave himself for the wedding. He sported the current stubble look (which I find so disagreeable these days).
    Claire mentioned to Brianna that her own parents weren't at either of her weddings. Bree replied that her mother would be at hers, as well as the man Bree loves. I found it strange that she didn't say her father would be too when they had had their moment recognizing how lucky they were to be together for this important day.
    As for Murtagh, he's a terrific actor, and yes, he's hot but I still don't like the fact that he was added to the story last season. I prefer sticking to the books more closely.

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  36. Hi ladies. I watched the reviews of all 4 seasons during the long awaited return. I really enjoyed them. I've also read all the books.
    1. The blood oath was a salute to book 4. It happened the minute Roger came back. Jamie, Claire and Brianna witnessed it. Then they go outside and slug each other.
    2. The shaving scene was a salute to book 4. Jamie watched only. It happened about a week after Roger arrived at the ridge. During that scene Roger listed all the things he didn't know how to do. What he had was a strong back. Jamie accepted this and gave him chores to do and said later he would teach him how to milk a cow. They discussed the wrongs on both sides. Jamie says something like on your word we call it even. Roger says "done". This refers to the "Return to Brianna" and the "Beating and Indian sale". Now the major tense times are any reference to young Ian. That would take a lot more than words to resolve.
    3. During panel discussions it is revealed that 5 months have past since season 4 finale. During that time the construction on the big house started and got almost done. They must have had a lot of help. There's no way that house would get done now that quickly. Time has no meaning.
    4. Lord John does not appear in book 5. Any opportunity to see him is a blessing. He does write letters and sends packages. Willie is in England.
    5. The govenor showed up at the gathering after the wedding in book 5. You know he wasn't invited because of the housing discussion. He happened to be in the neighborhood to demand that Jamie start his quest.
    6. The who's who game is fun. I can name that character after 3 glimpses. I'll wait for the formal introductions. All will be revealed.
    7. The small "gathering" was planned as the cross appeared in the background in several scenes during the wedding day. However the purpose of the gathering changed.
    8. Roger Jocasta scene was priceless. In the book Jocasta planned this meeting so witnesses would overhear him denounce the inheritance. everyone would know he wasn't marrying Brianna for it. Jamie even commented to Claire that Jocasta did s big favor for Roger's standing in the community.
    9. Roger can sing to me any day.
    10. Trials and tribulations to come. Book readers don't know which elements will be skipped. Book 5 is a book you have to get through on your way to book 6. I'm looking forward to how they deal with revelations at the end of book 5 no science fiction pleases. Book 6 is better. They could combine book 7 and 8. Book 7 is one of the weaker books. I really enjoyed book 8. I wonder if book 9 will come out right after the season ends.
    11. Goodnight ladies. I'll say a little prayer for Tom. He was a great guest star.

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  37. Three cheers for Roger. He is a man who has to think through a situation. He made three vows during this episode. The first vow was to Brianna at the wedding. I know he gets a lot of negatives from his not returning immediately. (Side note: can you imagine a two plus month return trip with Jamie and Roger. I don't think it would be a picnic all the way. Anger, frustration, guilt and sorrow. Emotions he would not feel comfortable sharing with Jamie. I;m sure he was following them at a close distance.) He truly loves Brianna. Second, He made a blood oath to Jem. No matter what Jem is his son. The three of them are a family. He is committed to them. Third he made an oath to Jamie. When Jamie looked at him he was in shock and still processing what was happening. Even though he's experienced a modern day version of gatherings and callings, it was not as powerful and overwhelming as this. When he heard Roger MacK. son of my house, the words spoke to his soul. He knew what to say because of his studies or he has good auditory memory. He has to be able to stand by these words. I guess the round trip through time has been postponed.
    Jaime is Claire guide through the time period. He grounds her in the 1770s. She has him as her confidant.
    Roger and Brianna don't have a foothold in the 1770s. Their challenges will be different. Roger will have to find a profession that works for him. He still has to farm, hunt etc. to feed his family. The supermarket is too far in the future. In a way it feels like their playing dress up and make believe. They must figure it out. War is a bloody experience.

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  38. I saw that interview too. I was wondering how they were going to explain the “Fiery Cross” meaning. They handled it well and I feel it’s more of a way they called everyone together for a “meeting”. They just couldn’t pick up a phone and say, “Come over. We need to talk.” ��

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  39. Duncan Iness is played by Alistair Findlay
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